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[cross posted: comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows, comp.mail.eudora.mac ] 8.0.0b4 seems to have silently crept in on little cat feet: 'Fog' by Carl Sandburg --- Penelope/'Eudora 8' is not original Eudora, but is an email client based on Mozilla's Thunderbird, with some added features and GUI elements from Qualcomm's Eudora. It probably installs into its own 'programs' directory, but may use the same default email store as Thunderbird (this may impact use of your other current Thunderbird 'extensions,' since Penelope is based on 'Thunderbird 3'). Hank Nussbacher 04.11.08 22:49. (Daniel Cohen) writes: >Unfortunately (it is a beta, after all) it got stuck with an expired >certificate on the IMAP server I connect to. Mail IIRC offered an option >to trust the certificate anyway, but this Eudora beta didn't, so I could >not progress further. I have had cert mgmt. Problems with past versions as well.