Perry I don't want to rattle the Bobcad Salescage Thanks What??? Don't want to rattle Bobcad sales people, they are bunch of sociopaths, they just want to use you.
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Worst salesman ever, they bug the hell out of you until you die. When they ask 'whats it going to take' tell them like I did and it worked, 'don't call me, and don't be high pressure, if I want your product I'll call you, keep calling me and I'm just going to get more pissed off'. If you really want it, give it a bit of time, act on the fence, you'll get the whole deal for about $199. As stated.once the BobCAD sales group gets your phone number.then they might as well move in and live with you.
They are a real pain.and they never go away. Everytime there is a new release, new price, new sales meeting.new promotion.new employee.new day.new pot of coffee.they'll call you.
Regardless of your pleads to remove you from the lists and to stop calling.they never quit. They are rude and interupting. I fell into the trap with V18 and have regretted it ever since.
My shop's sales come from phone calls.so I stop what I'm doing to take phone orders.unfortunatly, I also stop what I'm doing to find out that it's BobCAD again. I'm sure I've lost $100s in productivity over the last 6 years or so from thier 'sales calls'. Run like hell and never look back!! OK, I really dont have a CAM package as it stands. A guy from Bobcad is offering me V22, V21, BobArt, and the Training CDs for $662. Is it worth it?
I have heard some not great things about it but not bad. And at this price I dont think I can find any other cam packages that will do what it does.---------------------------------- I use BobCAD CAM to post to my 1986 Anilam Controller on my SuperMax mill - its ok. Get them to throw in a year of free software support/maintenance and BobNest, too My $0.02 worth: Its a decent CAM package.
The help people are Generally Very Helpful (once in a while you get a bonehead). The training CD's are about the best I've ever seen on anything (seriously - they rival the Video Professor). The CAD package is so/so - but you can get by with it (I use AutoCAD or Intellicad, then bring it into BobCAD - clean it up, CAM and send it out to the machine. Oh- also the CAM package even has a built in communciation package to send the ascii down to your machine. The Lathe module is very good, the gear generator is a nice involute generator, too. So - all in all - its not terrible. I kicked around which cad-cam software to get also.
I never used any cad program in the past but I ended up getting BodCad V22. I played with it for a while using the video training that came with it, and then I went to a 3 day training seminar. (worth every penny) To me the software seems VERY intuitive.
We were shown examples of V21 compared to V22 in class and I think having never used anything else that V22 is more powerful in many ways, they are definetly different. I was drawing parts and generating code the day after I got home from the class. American Civilization An Introduction 5th Edition Pdf here. That said, it does have some bugs that they are working out.and they will, and it will most likely continue to get better, BUT for the price you can't go wrong. You definitely get your bang for your buck.
That is my opinion. People are bashing BobCad all over the internet but so far I have few complaints about V22. I have a feeling those that praise it have not used a higher end cad package.
As usual, you get what you pay for. RJTNot every one who praise Bobcad ( I will also bitch about bobcad) needs a higher end program. You do get what you pay for.At the cost of a 3d seat of Mastercam I can get by with V22. I personaly feel it is a rip off to charge a yearly fee and will not buy any software that you have to pay and pay again. My upgrade cost from V21 to V22 was about the same as the base price for Mastercam's yearly fee $500 and updates also post are free. By no means and I saying that Bobcam is better or in some area even close to Mastercam. But it does work and at a heck of a lot less cash.